I got to talk with the women of Emerge Surf Therapy and Wilder Wellness, Kristin Mathes and Kristen Ales! We get into so many different aspects and perspectives on perfectionism. Perfectionism is something we have all experienced as human beings on this planet. On this episode, Kristin, Kristen, and I (three Kristi/ens!) discuss the different ways perfectionism has shown up in our lives and how we've battled, challenged, and found acceptance for it.

"Perfectionism is just fear in fancy shoes and a mink coat." -Elizabeth Gilbert

Kristin Mathes, LCSW is a licensed therapist working with women recovering from trauma, ptsd, anxiety, and panic through somatic healing, brainspotting, and surf therapy. She owns Emerge Surf and Somatic Therapy where she offers surf therapy retreats and programs for beginner and new surfers to reclaim power and self love through surfing and Mother Ocean.

More on Paddling with Perfectionism Retreat here: www.emergewithfreedom.com

Instagram: @emerge_surftherapy

Kristen Ales, LPC is a licensed therapist, specializing in body image and eating disorders. Her business Wilder Wellness has offered wilderness therapy, adventure retreats, courses, and workshops for the past 10 years helping women heal their relationship to food and their body while finding confidence on and off the trail. www.wilderwellness.co